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		<title>By: Ten Minas Ministry &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blig bleg blug blag Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.faithandgeekery.com/2009/02/12/another-disappointing-award-show/comment-page-1/#comment-1758</link>
		<dc:creator>Ten Minas Ministry &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blig bleg blug blag Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I stumbled across this blog. Tell me what you think of Christians and film-making. Obviously, from what we do with the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Faith &#38; Geekery &#124; Faith &#38; Geekery</title>
		<link>http://www.faithandgeekery.com/2009/02/12/another-disappointing-award-show/comment-page-1/#comment-911</link>
		<dc:creator>Faith &#38; Geekery &#124; Faith &#38; Geekery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] were my venerable and munificent fellow FG writers Mike and Aaron&#8217;s recent posts. Mike talked about how disappointed he was with Fireproof being chosen as inspirational movie of the year, and Aaron [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] were my venerable and munificent fellow FG writers Mike and Aaron&#8217;s recent posts. Mike talked about how disappointed he was with Fireproof being chosen as inspirational movie of the year, and Aaron [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Faith &#38; Geekery &#124; Faith &#38; Geekery</title>
		<link>http://www.faithandgeekery.com/2009/02/12/another-disappointing-award-show/comment-page-1/#comment-639</link>
		<dc:creator>Faith &#38; Geekery &#124; Faith &#38; Geekery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Baehr (you know, the guy and the organization responsible for that Christian movie awards show that Mike wrote about) calling for Hollywood to recognize that its failing finances require a &#8220;stimulus [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim and Justin, I think you&#039;ve both hit my point right on the nose (and perhaps said it better than I have).  I want to see more films by Christians.  I don&#039;t need a film that tells you how to get saved at the end.  How about making a film with a redeeming message that lays the burden on me to use that film to share the gospel with others?  That would be a way more &quot;Christian&quot; film.  And there are more films like that made by the secular world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim and Justin, I think you&#8217;ve both hit my point right on the nose (and perhaps said it better than I have).  I want to see more films by Christians.  I don&#8217;t need a film that tells you how to get saved at the end.  How about making a film with a redeeming message that lays the burden on me to use that film to share the gospel with others?  That would be a way more &#8220;Christian&#8221; film.  And there are more films like that made by the secular world.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen either Facing the Giants or Fireproof so I can&#039;t comment on them. However, I do give the church some credit in finding a way to make movies on such a tight budget and even Kirk Cameron for doing it for nothing. There is something selfless about all of this that is honorable. That doesn&#039;t excuse the simplistic storytelling I hear it has, but that part may come.

As for &quot;Christian Films&quot; and the like, I&#039;m with the CS Lewis Mentality that we probably need less Christian books and more books by Christians. As movies go, I&#039;m more excited by the themes I saw in WALL E (a movie by a Christian) than a host of Christian films I&#039;ve seen. Still, if you&#039;re going to see a movie with direct spiritual point to it, check out The Second Chance. Yes, it has Michael W Smith in it, and yet he isn&#039;t an actor, but he&#039;s surrounded by a good story and Steve Taylor&#039;s honesty that keeps it grounded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen either Facing the Giants or Fireproof so I can&#8217;t comment on them. However, I do give the church some credit in finding a way to make movies on such a tight budget and even Kirk Cameron for doing it for nothing. There is something selfless about all of this that is honorable. That doesn&#8217;t excuse the simplistic storytelling I hear it has, but that part may come.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;Christian Films&#8221; and the like, I&#8217;m with the CS Lewis Mentality that we probably need less Christian books and more books by Christians. As movies go, I&#8217;m more excited by the themes I saw in WALL E (a movie by a Christian) than a host of Christian films I&#8217;ve seen. Still, if you&#8217;re going to see a movie with direct spiritual point to it, check out The Second Chance. Yes, it has Michael W Smith in it, and yet he isn&#8217;t an actor, but he&#8217;s surrounded by a good story and Steve Taylor&#8217;s honesty that keeps it grounded.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m impressed that Grand Torino was even nominated based on the type of award show this is.  I haven&#039;t seen Fireproof, and I won&#039;t be seeing it.  I have found myself very disappointed by &quot;Christian&quot; films in the past, so I avoid, avoid, avoid.  To me, it just raises the question of why a film has to be labeled &quot;Christian&quot; anyhow.  Isn&#039;t it possible that a film can just be a good film and include positive, uplifting elements/Christian characters and still compete in traditional award shows by just being a good movie all around?

I guess I struggle with the label of Christian being applied to movies, books, and music.  I think something can come from a Christian perspective without the need to have a label slapped on it, a separate award show and all sorts of limitations placed on it.  Anyhow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m impressed that Grand Torino was even nominated based on the type of award show this is.  I haven&#8217;t seen Fireproof, and I won&#8217;t be seeing it.  I have found myself very disappointed by &#8220;Christian&#8221; films in the past, so I avoid, avoid, avoid.  To me, it just raises the question of why a film has to be labeled &#8220;Christian&#8221; anyhow.  Isn&#8217;t it possible that a film can just be a good film and include positive, uplifting elements/Christian characters and still compete in traditional award shows by just being a good movie all around?</p>
<p>I guess I struggle with the label of Christian being applied to movies, books, and music.  I think something can come from a Christian perspective without the need to have a label slapped on it, a separate award show and all sorts of limitations placed on it.  Anyhow.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t at all impressed with Facing The Giants so my expectations for Fireproof was fairly low.  In my opinion, Dallas Jenkins is the only Christian filmmaker putting forth an honest effort to really bring a Christian message to today&#039;s film that non-believers might actually sit through.  Midnight Clear, which came out last year, may star Hollywood&#039;s own born-again bad boy, Steve Baldwin, but the film really tried to rise above the cliches; at least I think it did.
And if you want to see a GOOD Christian football movie, check out Jenkins&#039; first production Hometown Legend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t at all impressed with Facing The Giants so my expectations for Fireproof was fairly low.  In my opinion, Dallas Jenkins is the only Christian filmmaker putting forth an honest effort to really bring a Christian message to today&#8217;s film that non-believers might actually sit through.  Midnight Clear, which came out last year, may star Hollywood&#8217;s own born-again bad boy, Steve Baldwin, but the film really tried to rise above the cliches; at least I think it did.<br />
And if you want to see a GOOD Christian football movie, check out Jenkins&#8217; first production Hometown Legend.</p>
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